Will The Airbone Toxic Event's letter be the beginning of Pitchfork's downfall?

Someone was bound to do it. There's been a lot of empty Pitchfork bashing since, oh I don't know, 2003 or so, but the very people who can have an impact in bashing them—fellow critics and fellow bands—have been mostly mute in words and action. But after James Jackson Toth fought Pitchfork's snark with (more factually-based) snark on his MySpace, The Airborne Toxic Event has written an similarly passive-aggressive rebuttal to their even worse-rating.

 

That indie bands wouldn't want to get into a spat with Pitchfork is understandable—it would be the equivalent of an 1890s low-level politician sleeping with William Randolph Hearst's wife. But it seems that a band has finally grown a pair big enough to take on Pitchfork, albeit in a retort so polite, you almost expect it to begin with "Dear Sir."

 

The Airborne Toxic Event's open letter to Pitchfork Media has, um, shocked some in the music industry world. Aversion called the band "crybabies" for saying it didn't care about Pitchfork scribe Ian Cohen's 1.6 rated-review, but writing 800+ words in response all the same. Lucas Jensen at Idolator has a graph-by-graph breakdown of where the Airbone Toxic Event is right-on and when they get silly. Jensen comes from a PR background, and he's seen just how damaging a bad Pitchfork review can be, no matter how inaccurate or poorly written the review. While Jensen admits that it's not worth it from a band's end to get into a pissing match from critics—and he's right—he makes a much more poignant suggestion towards the end of his analysis:

Honestly, everything about this, from the review to the letter, is so well-mannered as to be milquetoast. I feel like the only way The Airborne Toxic Event could have dodged either the "whiner" or "publicity-hungry" labels was to lash out. Go for belligerence! If you go in, go all in.

Prefix is not about to get into a pissing match with Pitchfork either. We are rivals and traffic competitors, but there's also a mutual dependence for news and insight (on the web, all competing sites are basically "frenemies."). But Jensen is right to point out that as responsible members of the music community, bands, fans, and even us critics can't let Pitchfork's abuses of its power go unnoticed.

 

I'd venture to say those abuses have gotten rarer in recent years. But as the Black Kids puppies and even their almost forgotten British Sea Power"rating" have shown, Pitchfork still has its moments where snark substitutes for substance and accuracy. Responding with an equally smartass letter won't help. Responding with unfiltered rage just may. I only hope that the rage can be better spelled and carefully argued than one in Kanye-speak.

 

While we're on the subject of classic yellow journalism, it's time to whip out this H.L. Mencken quote:

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."

 

The Full Letter is As Follows:

An Open Letter to PItchfork Media from the Airborne Toxic Event


Dear Ian,

Thanks for your review of our record. It's clear that you are a good writer and it's clear that you took a lot of time giving us a thorough slagging on the site. We are fans of Pitchfork.  And it's fun to slag off bands. It's like a sport -- kind of part of the deal when you decide to be in a rock band. (That review of Jet where the monkey pees in his own mouth was about the funniest piece of band-slagging we've ever seen.)

We decided a long time ago not to take reviews too seriously. For one, they tend to involve a whole lot of projection, generally saying more about the writer than the band. Sort of a musical Rorschach test. And for another, reading them makes you too damned self-conscious, like the world is looking over your shoulder when the truth is you're not a genius or a moron. You're just a person in a band.

Plus, the variation of opinions on our record has bordered on absurd. Most of what's been said has been positive, a few reviews have been on the fence and a few (such as yours) have been aggressively harsh. We tend not to put a lot of stock in this stuff, but the sheer disagreement of opinion makes for fascinating (if not a bit narcissistic) reading.

And anyway we have to admit that we found ourselves oddly flattered by your review. I mean, 1.6? That is not faint praise. That is not a humdrum slagging. That is serious fist-pounding, shoe-stomping anger. Many publications said this was among the best records of the year. You seem to think it's among the worst. That is so much better than faint praise.

You compare us to a lot of really great bands (Arcade Fire, the National, Bright Eyes, Bruce Springsteen) and even if your intention was to cut us down, you end up describing us as: "lyrically moody, musically sumptuous and dramatic." One is left only to conclude that you m ust think those things are bad.

We love indie rock and we know full well that Pitchfork doesn't so much critique bands as critique a band's ability to match a certain indie rock aesthetic. We don't match it. It's true that the events described in these songs really happened. It's true we wrote about them in ways that make us look bad. (Sometimes in life you are the hero, and sometimes, you are the limp-dicked cuckold. Sometimes your screaming about your worst fears, your most trite jealousies. Such is life.) It's also true that the record isn't ironic or quirky or fey or disinterested or buried beneath mountains of guitar noodling.

As writers, we admire your tenacity and commitment to your tone (even though you do go too far with your assumptions about us). You're wrong about our intentions, you're wrong about how this band came together, you don't seem to get the storytelling or the catharsis or the humor in the songs, and you clearly have some misconceptions about who we are as a band and who we are as people.

But it also seems to have very little to do with us. Much of your piece reads less like a record review and more like a diatribe against a set of ill-considered and borderline offensive preconceptions about Los Angeles. Los Angeles has an extremely vibrant blogging community, Silver Lake is a very close-knit scene of bands. We're one of them. We cut our teeth at Spaceland and the Echo and have nothing to do with whatever wayward ideas you have about the Sunset Strip. That's just bad journalism.

But that is the nature of this sort of thing. It's always based on incomplete information. Pitchfork has slagged many, many bands we admire (Dr. Dog, the Flaming Lips, Silversun Pickups, Cold War Kids, Black Kids, Bright Eyes [ironic, no?] just to name a few), so now we're among them. Great.

This band was borne of some very very dark days and the truth is that there is something exciting about just being part of this kind of thing. There's this long history of dialog between bands and writers, NME ripping apart the Cure or Rolling Stone refusing to write about Led Zeppelin -- so it's a bit of a thrill that you have such a20strong opinion about us.

We hear you live in Los Angeles. We'd love for you to come to a show sometime and see what we're doing with these lyrically moody and dramatic songs. We're serious about this stuff. You seem like a true believer when it comes to music and writing so we honestly think we can't be too far apart. In any case, it would make for a good story.

all our best--

Mikel, Steven, Anna, Daren, Noah
the Airborne Toxic Event

Letter can also be viewed at http://www.theairbornetoxicevent.com

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28 Responses

September 18, 2008 at 9:27 p.m.

Might help Pfork, definitely doesn't hurt them at all.

September 18, 2008 at 10:17 p.m.

Yeah, this just gets more people to read the review that trashes them than would have before.

September 18, 2008 at 10:28 p.m.

I think I side with the Idolator post, this whole thing is just tepid and boring. It's not like it was a picture of pugs or monkeys peeing in their mouths.

September 18, 2008 at 11:54 p.m.

I think it the short term it does nothing. But the fact that people are starting to speak out against them is a big deal.

September 18, 2008 at 11:59 p.m.

I'd say the old saw about "no such thing as bad press" applies to both sides here.

September 19, 2008 at 12:11 a.m.

maybe if fans or other critics came out saying something was way too harsh or unfounded I could see something happening in terms of pitchfork's influence but you kind of expect a band to disagree. I can pretty much only recall one dude from that boy band LFO (LFU maybe) saying that he'd thought their single was one of the worst songs ever before it took off. and then there was wes borland from limp bizkit who said if he wasn't in the band he probably wouldn't listen to the music at all. but those were extreme cases.

as far as helping pitchfork this is the first time i've stopped by their site in over a year so yeah i'd say it just encourages traffic.

September 19, 2008 at 12:23 a.m.

People have spoken against Pitchfork as soon as it became clear that their reviews could affect album sales. I remember Travis Morrison getting all bent out of shape four years ago when they crapped on his record (they gave him a 0.0). Calling out Pitchfork isn't really that big of a deal-- it just shows that the bands are hoping to get good reviews from Pitchfork, and when they don't get them, they get pissed at the power of P4K. I wonder what the reaction would have been if they gave it a 5.0 with that review.

September 19, 2008 at 12:48 a.m.

If Pitchfork knows they have so much power over the success of a album, do they have a moral obligation to see that they are fair and un-bias and don't get too carried away?? Just a question. ie. surely, the album is better than 1.6. A lot of it is for the shock value and the attention such a low review grabs. For this, I think every band that sees inconsistencies with a Pitchfork review should call them out. Of course it won't be the downfall of Pitchfork. But I do look forward to a future letter of this kind that is more aggressive and sophisticated and from a more established band/artist.

September 19, 2008 at 12:52 a.m.

I actually agree with Pitchfork about all the bands he mentioned, minus The Flaming Lips. When did Pitchfork bash them? Nothing comes to mind.

September 19, 2008 at 1:12 a.m.

Pitchfork's review of Zaireeka is one of the site's most notorious early reviews. It was one of the first Blutarsky's they gave out (0.0). It may have been their very first, actually.

September 19, 2008 at 1:14 a.m.

OMFG pitchfork didn't like someone's record!!! they have a moral obligation to love and promote every indie band's albums!!!!

seriously though, come on people. it's just a review site. when did having an opinion become such a crime? i am so sick of seeing indie bands whine and bitch about not getting a positive review in pitchfork.

September 19, 2008 at 1:31 a.m.

bazookajoe, you're missing the point. No one said anything about them having an obligation to "promote" or say "good things" about an album. But they should feel an obligation to get facts right and make sure they know what they're talking about. If they don't, then it's perfectly fine for people to call them out. It's not whining...it's setting the record straight since so many blind, pitchforked kids take them for their every word. Pitchfork prides itself on being the wise indie outlet. If someone is the wiser, pray tell.

September 19, 2008 at 1:35 a.m.

I know they were just waiting for a record they could give a U.2. The new BSP doesn't remind me of U2 at all. Neon bible actually breathes more U2 influence, but Pitchfork isn't going to use the one chance for this snark on The Arcade Fire. BSP was the perfect target.

September 19, 2008 at 1:47 a.m.

dukkookim, what "facts" has pitchfork gotten wrong? i just read the review and the letter and only see opinions being expressed.
also, since when has pitchfork ever claimed it was the "wise indie outlet"?

September 19, 2008 at 1:48 a.m.

Seriously, I had no idea where they were getting that from. If it sounds like U2 at all, it's 80s U2.

September 19, 2008 at 3:03 a.m.

Pitchfork is my 2nd favorite music site on the internet. My favorite is not Prefix btw.

September 19, 2008 at 8:28 a.m.

I agree with daba about them being number two. The review didn't seem ill informed and even if negative it did help distinguish a band in the vast shapeless form of contemporary indie music. My problem with Pitchfork is that their not negative enough. The help way to many boring, un-innovative groups get big. Of the four "great bands" Pitchfork compares them too, only one is good. (Take a guess: it's the old one that's not "indie.") The other three only demonstrate the lack of imagination in today's indie rock.

September 19, 2008 at 8:49 a.m.

For once I totally agree w/ pitchfork, this band sucks in every way and they are just one of the worst follower bands in this city. Every time I see these guys on a bill I avoid like the plague. They are really just a band trying to make it and have nothing original to play or say. They pretty much the "faster pussycat" of the fake indie scene. Total poseurs. And if they want to write me a letter , go for it!! I'll be happy to never see or hear them again.

September 19, 2008 at 10:40 a.m.

doesn't pitchfork have a legitimate TV show now...yeah, uh, I think they're doing just fine.

September 19, 2008 at 11:10 a.m.

Yeah all this stuff will just help Pitchfork. I agree Jblo- Pitchfork does give have a bit of a kingmaker complex and it seems they're judging this year on a curve.

I remember Pitchfork saying the BSP album didn't sound like 80's U2 but early 2000's U2, namely "All That...." But the BSP album sounds absolutely nothing like that. The only U2 album you could compare it too remotely is October.

September 19, 2008 at 1:45 p.m.

Funny that you think Prefix is actually a Pitchfork competitor. You only have a tiny fraction of their traffic.

September 19, 2008 at 1:48 p.m.

I wouldn't say we're necessarily competitors, but our traffic isn't a tiny fraction of pfork's either...

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/pitchforkmedia.com+prefixmag.com/?metric=uv

September 19, 2008 at 2:05 p.m.

This from a band that literally used to rehearse its "stage moves" at their first shows, asking people how it looked when this did this or that. I'm sorry guys, I agree with the review wholeheartedly. I respect the band's response as well, but the review is pretty accurate. They are the most dervitave and unoriginal band in Silver Lake and I hope it doesn't detract attention from the great(er) bands of the area like Henry Clay People, Dios Malos, The Movies, Le Switch, War Paint, Afternoons, Happy Hollows, and countless others.

September 19, 2008 at 6:41 p.m.

I'm not saying the review was particularly snarky, nor that Airborne Toxic Event is a role model. But I still think that the fact that people are beginning to put their anti-Pitchfork arguments into writing instead of talking about with casually is a significant development.

September 21, 2008 at 11:26 p.m.

I think that this is the beginning of The Airborne Toxic Event's downfall. Seriously. They claim to not care about reviews, and then launch into a diatribe about how great their record is and how offended they are that Pitchfork didn't like it. From what I've heard from the band, it seems the review was spot on -- everything seems incredibly derivative (like a game of name-that-influence), buried in a boring swath of L.A. smog. Yawn.

November 13, 2008 at 3:54 a.m.

As Eeyore said, thanks for noticing me.

January 23, 2009 at 1:28 a.m.

Very simply, Pitchfork (especially Ian) has become everything I hate about hipsters. I think the response was warranted. There are people who read and buy into Pitchfork's too cool for success reviews. I'd defend myself too if my livelihood was at stake. ATE has worked damn hard to get where they are today. And just because an indie band sees some success, it does not mean they are bad. All the people who take the time to trash the band are just player haters. Please get a life and just be happy for them...

January 23, 2009 at 11:28 a.m.

Hipsters that aren't emotionally repressed = Human beings.

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