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Timbaland responds to beat jackin' accusations

So in the clip below, Timbaland responds to the accusations that he stole the beat for Nelly Furtado's "Do It" from Finnish musician Janne Suni. Timbo does not respond in full since the case is in litigation, but it's still pretty interesting stuff.

And here is the original You Tube clip that set off the controversy.

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Timbaland

i heard it, i liked it, i didn't know who made it, i wasn't sure if it was public domain, but i copied it because my deadline was coming up, and that's okay? am i getting that right? is that what he said?

Mike Krolak

a.k.a. He'll settle out of court for a couple thousand dollars and the Scandinavian dudes will go back into production obscurity. Whee.

Gully Foot

So what if he stole it, Find the song Nino - Stijl is fresh and compare it to Jibbs - Chain hang low.Decide for yourself. The Netherlands , Shoutout for Kempi, Dutch rapper.

gino

[...] Ever since Timbaland first came out, he’s been accused of stealing styles from obscure European music. Last month a case emerged in which Timbaland had obviously sampled a chiptune by a Finnish ‘composer’ for the track “Do It” by Nelly Furtado. Timbo finally responded, and while he had to walk on eggshells due to the open litigation, his response was appropriate: whoopdee damn do. It was a sample. The line between theft and sampling is a fine one, but the discussion is certainly not a new one. Either way, if I was the Finnish dude, I’d want my money, too… Timbaland may or may not jack beats, but I definitely jack blog posts–this one from Prefix. What up Dave! [...]

FatBeats.com Blog

Sounds like Timmy Tim is pretty much admitting he took the beat to me. This will get settled and that Finnish dude will fade back into obscurity though.

ian

the way i see it, the only thing he did wrong was not getting the sample cleared. i dont think he at any point denied that he came up with this on his own. but it sounds like he is saying that the song was attributed to nobody when he found it. obscure samples get used all the time without getting cleared.

Adrian Covert

It's not a sample! He stole a piece of music - this is blatant copyright theft. A piece of music doesn't just create itself, fool.

JM

I have to agree with A. Covert, how can he steal something when there was no clear ownership? Samples are taken and legal procedures are needed to clear that sample, however, how could Timbaland do that if he heard it from a video game and no ownership was clear on that track? so do the next best thing, and sample it and deal with the paying off sampling or copyright fee after the song is made...aka settling out of court etc. too much hating.

MJV

Whoppee Damn Doo? First off, the line between sampling and theft is not a fine one. You sample, you get permission and name the source - everything is fine. You don't sample and say you wrote this - that is theft - everything is not fine. Creative sampling is an artform in itself, but too many people who sample have such pen!s envy of real musicians and want to play so badly, they are trying to blurr that line and make the two one in the same. Timbo is a musician as well, so that makes it more confusing than some of the responses I've seen to this issue, i.e. Whoppee Damn Doo. Let someone steal something of yours and see if you say that. Doubt it.

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Adrian Covert

Timbaland said he had no time to clear the sample before deadline of the album. That must be some bull****, he used the same song for a ringtone the year before, I think he'll have to come up with some other explanation.And refering to a 15 second looped song snippet as a sample is a bit funny too. Oh well, it will be exciting to see where this ends.

Fat Guy

i think that for all of the shadiness that tim has seemingly gotten himself into, people are right in that he'll just pay some money and it'll go away.

mk

"but it sounds like he is saying that the song was attributed to nobody when he found it."All the SID files have the artist name included. The name is visible when you load the track for playing. Enter the name to google: Glenn Rune Gallefoss, and you've found the author of the track.No cigar, sorry."I have to agree with A. Covert, how can he steal something when there was no clear ownership?"Everything is copyrighted by default. If there is no mention of the author or license, you must assume it's copyrighted.

plop

[...] Sampling has been a grey area for producers ever since it became a widespread composition device. No one is immune; if super-ultra-megastar producer Timbaland can get called out for possibly stealing a beat, anyone can. [...]

» Daftendirekt(ly copied for the most part)

MOST OF TIMBERLANDS SONGS SOUND THE SAME SO THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT HE ISN'T AN ORIGINAL PRODUCER. HE HAS SIGNATURE SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE NEPTUNES. REMEMBER ALL OF AALIYAH + MISSY ELLIOT'S ALBUMS SOUNDED LIKE NOTHING ELSE.IT'S SO OBVIOUS IT'S A VIDEO GAME SAMPLE THERE SHOULD BE NO QUESTION IF HE SAMPLED IT. ALSO THAT LAST VIDEO IS INCORRECT THE "PERFECT FIT" PART WAS DONE WRONG.

Julien

Timbaland taxes people's beats. Trust. He's unoriginal and cheese.

CC

Sampling is the act of taking a piece or pieces of a song already composed and making a new composition out of it. That's not what he did. He copied/interoplated the actual musical notes of the bassline and melody. That's blatantly ripping off the original composer.

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