Good news for the eight Billy Corgan fans out there: if you want to hear the complete version of Zeitgeist, the new album by the Smashing Pumpkins, you'''ll only have to purchase it three times. That'''s right''only three times. It seems that Corgan & Co. thought that the best way to come back into the fold would be to force fans to purchase the new disc at Target, Best Buy, and iTunes, respectively, as each retailer carries a different version of Zeitgeist, with different track listings and exclusive songs for each. No word yet if Stephen Malkmus understands what this means, or if he could really give a f***.
The Smashing Pumpkins briefly emerge from irrelevance to alienate fans, indie record stores
Good news for the eight Billy Corgan fans out there: if you want to hear the complete version of Zeitgeist, the new album by the Smashing Pumpkins, you'''ll only have to purchase it three times. That'''s right''only three times. It seems that Corgan & Co. thought that the best way to come back into the fold would be to force fans to purchase the new disc at Target, Best Buy, and iTunes, respectively, as each retailer carries a different version of Zeitgeist, with different track listings and exclusive songs for each. No word yet if Stephen Malkmus understands what this means, or if he could really give a f***.
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June 26, 2007 at 6:43 p.m.
| Travis Woods |
Were I more than a casual listener of the Pumpkins, I'd be a little pissed that, being such an album oriented band (despite all the singles), one has to purchase the disc three times in order to hear the complete work. |
June 26, 2007 at 7:38 p.m.
| Dave Park |
seems like they're trying to get people to buy the album 3x. i forgot all about the Malkmus/Corgan beef though. My money is on Malkmus in less time than it took Tyson to knock out Spinks. |
June 26, 2007 at 8:16 p.m.
| Kid A |
yeah my money is on malkmus considering corgan is a tool whereas malkmus was the frontman of one of the greatest bands in a the past twenty years. |
June 26, 2007 at 8:46 p.m.
| brian |
I'm also shocked by the outrage. Unless the last CD you bought was MACHINA, you should be used to this kind of thing by now. |
June 26, 2007 at 9:10 p.m.
| Etan Rosenbloom |
Loved the "Range Life" reference, Travis. But didn't I already post about this a few days ago: http://www.prefixmag.com/blog/smashing-pumpkins-release-three-versions-of-zeitgeist/5908Ah well, it's a ridiculous idea anyway. At the very least Virgin might consider making each of the bonus tracks available as individual downloads at some point...or perhaps they're waiting to release a deluxe edition that gathers all the non-album tracks at some point? Maybe the deluxe edition will be released exclusively through Starbucks? |
June 26, 2007 at 9:16 p.m.
| Josh H. |
Can we have a contest where we all guess how many copies this record doesn't sell? Or maybe an insane trilogy contest where we all weigh in on each release? I need more of a reason to continue being simultaneously appalled and entertained by the mockery that has become the Smashing Pumpkins. |
June 26, 2007 at 9:36 p.m.
| Travis Woods |
Whoops, I missed that post. Actually, mine was the second of three posts, each similar but slightly different, all in an effort to force Prefix readers to keep reading about the Pumpkins. |
June 26, 2007 at 10:04 p.m.
| Dave Park |
I'll guess they sell < 100,000 |
June 26, 2007 at 11:51 p.m.
| joydivided |
didn't prefix already post this news story...when it was an actual new story last week? |
June 27, 2007 at 12:52 a.m.
| Travis Woods |
See above. |
June 27, 2007 at 8:09 a.m.
| bradford |
Seriously though... is the different bonus track thing such a huuuge deal? I mean, try to remember this band did offer up MACHINA II as a free album to their fanbase. |
June 27, 2007 at 11:15 a.m.
| Travis Woods |
I MACHINA was released for free online because their label refused to release it.I think the main issue here is Corgan's arrogance in believing that his band is so important as to necessitate a triple release. |
June 27, 2007 at 11:19 a.m.
| John Zeiss |
Love the Range Life quote! If anyone has ever read the Pavement bio book Perfect Sound Forever, it goes into lengthy detail about the Corgan/Malkmus beef. Apparently the song "Billie" off Terror Twilight is about Corgan, but Malkmus was pressured to change the spelling of the name in the title so as not to be so obvious. |
June 29, 2007 at 11:27 p.m.
| Jason Delgatto |
What I really don't understand is that when numerous other bands have had "itunes-exclusive" tracks and "best buy extra tracks" for years no one really seemed to care. However, when the Pumpkins do it, it's the biggest outrage. Not to mention most of the people who are bitching aren't even fans and weren't going to buy the album anyway. As a fan, I'm excited because I can buy the album once and I know that there will be 3 extra bonus tracks for me to download in the near future. |
July 1, 2007 at 11:40 p.m.
| Travis Woods |
Again, I think it's the fact that the S.M. are, or at least were, an album-oriented band. For those of us who prefer to own the original, complete album instead of downloading it, it's frustrating that one has to buy it three times over, or download the extra tracks, in order to have the whole work. |
July 5, 2007 at 1:33 a.m.
| that guy |
and all the b-sides in the world... still recorded within the same sessions... oh but they're not being released at all with this version cry me a fucking river. no one is pointing a gun to anyone's head and making them buy three albums, file sharing is pretty common these days don't wet your pants if you have to wait a few weeks to get your "whole" album. Seems to be so much controversy over one band all the time, if you don't like it take all the albums you have that he made and burn them because he is the biggest egotistical asshole on the planet. Seems like if you stopped liking the band in the mid 90's then why be interested and still talking the crap over ten years later. |
July 5, 2007 at 2:07 a.m.
| Travis Woods |
Because it's fun to piss on Billy Corgan... because he's Billy Corgan. |
July 6, 2007 at 1:29 a.m.
| Burke |
Really anyone who is bitching about this really has no intention on buying any of the 3 different versions. As its been stated before, the Smashing Pumpkins are definitly not the first to release an album like this. And yeah they have been out of the lime light for a better part of a decade, hell longer if you didn't think Machina or Adore were all that. And thats probably exactly who is getting all upset about this, the people that only know of Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and could give a shit what the pumpkins did after that cause it was not as mainstream.The fact of the matter is that almost every pumkin album has B-Sides that were released officail on a single, a whole other album or showed up on some Bootleg, shit have any of you heard of Pisces Iscariot or the Areo Plane Flies High Box set, both of those releases were nothing but B-sides. If your like most Pumpkins Fans you have been waiting a long fucking time to get something new, well now you got 3 new things to get, hell 4 if you want to count the Transformers Soundtrack, yeah there is a track on that disc to, but don't worry its featured on the album too, so quit your bitching and go change your kotex |
July 10, 2007 at 2:08 a.m.
| jonathan |
"yeah my money is on malkmus considering corgan is a tool whereas malkmus was the frontman of one of the greatest bands in a the past twenty years."not even close, SP were 10 times the band pavement were. pavement were good but nothing compared to the pumpkins, one good listen to Siamese Dream will sort that out. |
July 10, 2007 at 8 a.m.
| Jeff Klingman |
That's about as wrong as possible Jon. The Pumpkins catalog continues to deflate in stature where Pavement's gathers new fans all the time. Siamese Dream is a good record, but that's all they got, man. Pavement never got embarrassing, nobody can say that about Corgan and co. |
July 10, 2007 at 8:27 a.m.
| bradford |
As much as I love/d the Pumpkins... gotta agree with Jeff on this one. |
July 10, 2007 at 4:24 p.m.
| Travis Woods |
"And thats probably exactly who is getting all upset about this, the people that only know of Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and could give a shit what the pumpkins did after that cause it was not as mainstream."Actually, Adore is my favorite Pumpkins disc.And I do own Pices Iscariot. And the MC box of b-sides. And none of that changes the fact that the three-way release of Zeitgeist still sucks, nor the fact that Malkmus would beat Corgan in a slapfight. |
July 10, 2007 at 4:32 p.m.
| Travis Woods |
Oh yeah, by the way, throwing a song on a Jerry B. summer flick soundtrack does not exactly ramp one's credibility into the stratosphere. |
July 11, 2007 at 7:10 a.m.
| bradford |
Adore is my favorite too. Just saying. |
i fail to grasp the outrage over this