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Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame May Change Induction Rules

Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame May Change Induction Rules

Cleveland's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has a lot of notable snubs, from KISS to Todd Rundgren, from Rush to Cheap Trick, and countless others. Somehow Jann Wenner, the co-founder and publisher of Rolling Stone and the Hall of Fame's head honcho, believes that he can't find enough quality groups to make the Hall of Fame candidates over the next few years interesting.

 

Instead of rectifying the various snubs, Wenner and the Hall's latest idea is to change the rules for induction into the Hall. Currently the rules state that a band's first album has to have been released a minimum of 25 years ago to be eligible, but the Hall is considering reducing that number to 20, which would allow in groups like Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, Guns N Roses and Nirvana, among others.

 

It seems a bit ridiculous to be considering changing the rules when they are so many influential rock and roll artists still left out of the Hall, but it seems Wenner and the Hall are more concerned with grabbing viewers for the induction ceremony, younger viewers who are emotional invested in the aforementioned bands, than actually rectify the problem of Chubby Checker not being in the Hall. [The Daily Swarm]

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If the Beastie Boys are not first-ballot inductees, it would be the worst first-ballot HOF snub since Ryne Sandberg.

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KISS has been snubbed since 1999. Most "quality" acts in the HOF are not quality and a good number of them are obscure and little known. HOF kiss my backside.

sixstring2003

The RNR HOF is not a real rock hall of fame. They lost their credibility by who they let in. The institution is a bunch of old people who like to have a big party once a year and induct their fav bands. Unfortunately, they don't have great taste and people take them too seriously.

Diana

THE TOP 4 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL-TIME ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART:

01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. Chicago

CHICAGO IS THE ONLY BAND ON THAT LIST THAT IS NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. INDUCT CHICAGO ALREADY!

Roy

First of all why would Green Day be considered into the Hall of Fame to begin with. I'm not big on Punk but aren't their more influential punk bands besides them that should be in the Hall of Fame to begin with. You want to talk influential, how bout Rush,and Yes. There would be no Mastodon's "Crack the Skye" without those two bands.

Marc L

There has been no greater R&R HOF snub than Cheap Trick. This is a band that is still performing, releasing records and selling out houses with the original lineup. They are considered influences of power-pop, metal AND grunge bands. Kurt Cobain openly cited Cheap Trick and The Knack as two of his biggest influences. Trick is so versatile that they have been able to tour with KISS, Poison, Stone Temple Pilots, Robert Plant, Heart, John Waite, REO Speedwagon and Motley Crue. And Robin Zander may be the greatest rock singer of all time. That Cheap Trick is not in the hall is a travesty.

Dave

Jann has snubbed HEART for years. wtf?

sue

Cheap Trick and Kiss amoung others are ignored but they put in the likes of Abba? LOL. WIthout Cheap Trick there is no Nirvana or Green Day or Smashing Pumpkins. The Rock and roll Hall became a joke a while ago and remember at the beginning where they refused to show the induction ceremony or maybe it was just the jamming by the bands.Why is a man whose only claim publishing a magazine that stopped being relavent 30 years ago in charge???

Eddie C

Dave and Eddie C are so right. How can Cheap Trick be left out?
How can Yes, Deep Purple and Rush be left out? Yeah, I can see a case for Chicago but, seeing them live twice was so disappointing I can kinda understand the snub (once, back in the day, their live show was so bad people just started walking out). Cheap Trick has always been awesome live. Robin Zander still has that great voice and Rick Nielsen is still one of rock's most under rated and under appreciated guitarists- except, of course, by other rock bands, who know better.
Kiss doesn't get in but Abba does? That pretty much says it all and, yeah, I know Mamma Mia was a big hit but so what?

East Coast Ed

The fact that Cheap Trick, KISS, and Alice Cooper are not in the RNRHOF is absolutely ridiculous. Personal agendas seem to be taking precedence over inducting deserving artists. It's become a joke, and induction is at the whim of certain individuals. It's "ROCK & ROLL"!!! Cheap Trick is ROCK & ROLL!! Abba, Madonna, and numerous others are not. It's not the "Music Hall of Fame"....it's the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame".

Bruce

Eddie C is spot-on!! The RnRHOF is a farce!! This institution/business lost ALL credibility when Madonna and rap groups were voted in! It's like that case a while back where the mother of a girl sued to get her daughter into the BOY Scouts! Rock n Roll isn't dance music!

Marc

Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick, Kiss, Heart, Rush.....seriously. How he thinks there aren't enough options left with the current criteria is beyond me. As a personal bias, I think Alice and Cheap Trick should be in next year. And I think KISS the year after that....strange to nominate them before Alice, when he was their influence! They sure as heck deserve it, but AFTER Alice.

Though, at this point, I'd be amused to see some of these artists/bands say "no" if they are nominated/inducted. Because, really, at this point...they're clearly ABOVE the standards Wenner has set.

Jennifer

I can't believe this...

So people who are more deserving, Cheap Trick, KISS, and Alice Cooper have less of a chance of getting in now?!?!

Bloody hell!!!

Jade

I wanna take a massive dump on that pic of that flaming douche Jann Wiener...

KXB

The Electric Light Orchestra with Jeff Lynne have been snubbed since 1996, influencing Cheap Trick, Kiss and countless others!

Rick Vendl II

Kiss and Cheap Trick? Why not just let everyone in. There already are some artists that don't belong. Just because someone had two or three hits, or everyone liked them when they were in junior high, is not enough to deserve hall of fame.

I'm no Rush fan, but they're the one band of those I see listed here that perhaps deserves induction. Heart? ELO? Chicago? Alice Cooper? Get real.

Tyber

Todd Rundgren created sounds that have beeen copied over and over, even by him producing records for Cheap Trick, Meatlooaf, Badfinger... Noot to mention cutting edge tech stuff like interactive music. Wenner is a money grubbing tool. Does Rolling Stone even write about real music anymore? I don't know because I can't stand all tha ads. Let the past die (Rolling Stone, Warner Records, Maddonna) and let the artists that still are relavent get the music to the people that listen. RRHOF has no influence on my music preferance, never has, never will!

Slinky

The Hall of Fame does not induct acts based on commercial success. Yes, a number of inductees happened to be huge commercial successes (does one get any bigger than The Beatles or Elvis?), but they also are regarded as the best and most influential acts, as well. There are a number of acts who enjoyed alot of commercial success, who are not in the HOF.

In regards to Chicago, the 80s-on material probably hurt the chances for induction. The band was never as progressive as early Genesis, who managed to overcome the middle-of-the-road Phil Collins years and land among this year's inductees.

There are a number of worthy acts still not in the HOF, so I don't think that's a reason for cutting the criteria by five years.

JR

To me the RnRHOF should contain the "main branches" of the "tree of rock n roll".

Deep Purple.. Rush.. Alice Cooper.. Yes.. Genesis.. Devo.. all qualify IMO. They are all great bands who were innovators and stretched music in new directions.

I'm not a fan of Kiss but probably should be included as well just for the huge nitch they have carved out with their stage shows and marketing. They influenced many people after them on the tree.

Rock N Roll Pleeb

Let's change the name to Rock n Bull. By not having music legends like Todd Rundgren, Chicago, Alice Cooper, Kiss, Cheap Trick....this is bull. It's simple No Todd, no way will I ever walk through the doors of this place. I saw this guy in 1973 at the age of 16 and followed him ever since. I turned out to be a successful engineer and a couple years ago stayed in the hotel next to the Rock n Bull place to meet with editors next door to review technical artilces they were publishing on my work. Todd Rundgdren was playing in town so rather then going to the museum I headed over for Todd. I suggest that all of you share your dissapointment with them and don't go through their doors until your candidate is inducted.

Ross

For Gods sakes.Deep Purple.Dire Straits.Judas Priest.Iron Maiden.Pink Floyd.What do all these look like?The next door laundromats.The RnR Hall of fame ought to be renamed the RackingRole Howl of shame.WTH?without all these bands in, the damned place is a lousy joke.Ignorance suits it best.

Smashedup

Here is all you need to know about Jann Wenner. He was married but was having affairs with men, while his wife was raising their sons, and she never knew of his gay alter persona. This was during the 1980s era of AIDS. The problem is not that he is gay, that is his personal choice. He is a total duche bag for giving his wife Hep-B and exposing her to HIV. Now he is married to a man, and they "have" 3 children together. This guy is really slimely. I have to go take a long shower after reading that.

Jake Fontana

I agree with Bruce. It is the ROCK AND ROLL HOF, not the Music HOF. While Abba is a very talented legendary group, the last time I checked they are NOT rock and roll. Neither is Prince, Madonna, etc. When are they going to get it right? I am disappointed every year. Again, not to take anything away from the talent of some of these groups, but when I think R&R, I think of Cheap Trick, KISS, Bon Jovi, Yes, Rush, Moody Blues, etc. - or do I just not understand the meaning of rock and roll?

Tony

The biggest Snub of all is still Cheap Trick, you think their dead and they just keep coming out of the woodwork, they have been around since Aerosmith and are even good friends with Aerosmith. To me the RRHOF is not relavent, till bands like Cheap Trick, Kiss, Rush and all get in, because without them, there are no Guns and Roses, or Smashing Pumpkins. Abba had to ressurect their carreer thru a play, they would have been dead and gone, but Cheap Trick has always been around. I have seen them play 7 times and have always been great live. Which a lot of bands can't say, alot of bands suck live. For me Abba was disco it wasn't even Rock, which is a snub in itself you, let a band in the RRHOF thats disco, but you won't let a band in thats more working class. There needs to be a change, because it sounds like the RRHOF is just a popularity contest and not the true originators of rock. I bet if you asked Aerosmith, who they would rather have next to them, Cheap Trick or Abba, I know what the answer would be?

Eric

Electric Light Orchestra!!! What the heck? Where is their induction? Hall & Oates, Todd Rundgren, Cheap Trick, The Guess Who...so many snubs...

Jess

Let's not over-look the incredible Johnny Maestro (The Crests, The Brooklyn Bridge) for induction. His carreer spanned from the late 1950's right up to 2010! His iconic voice is instantly recognizible, and he was a sincere, humble man who cared deeply enough about others to use his talent to help numerous causes raise monies to benefit the ill and less forntunate. He is someone our youths can look up to in an era which needs a wholesome and true hero! Don't let his talent, and contribution to the music industry go unrewarded!

Carl Marmo

WAKE UP, CHICAGO AS SAID IS THE 4 GREATEST SELLING GROUP OF ALL TIME, WHAT ABOUT DEF LEPPARD, THEY SOLD THE MOST ALBUMS OF THE 80'S, RUSH AND TRICK ARE AWESOME AND STILL ORIGINAL, ELO HAD A DIFFERANT STYLE BUT DESERVE IT NONE THE LESS....COME ON PEOPLE THOSE GUYS NEED TO GET IN NOW

Stosh

The RR HALL is a complete joke! Untill Yo La Tengo is inducted they should never be inducting half the people they are allowing in! Also, Flaming Lips deserve their place!

Brett

These people making the dicisions of WHO gets into their hall of fame are going to do what ever they want to.It don't matter what you think.

Bullit

i dont understand the criteria for the hall of fame.can you give me the standards for induction?

george

Heart should have been inducted along with Rush.

Matt

bands and artists that arent in the rock hall that should be.

Judas Priest, Kiss, Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Steve Vai, Motorhead, Dio, Motley Crue, Guns n roses, Dave Mustaine, Randy Roads, Paul Gilbert, Joe satriani, stevie ray vaghn

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