"Hey guys!  Let's argue now"  -GM Omnis

* Both tend to have grandiose visions (be it for a country or a band/novel) that barely work as theory. Moreover, both tend to rely on their parents and their parents' connections for an inordinate amount of support to get started in this world. And yet, if you point out that debt to them, they're quick to tell those to whom they are closest that, really, they fundamentally disagree with how their parents view the world.

I mean, hipsters are about as destructive...

/inflammatory comments.