I still think the the word doesn't mean anything anymore and hasn't for many years now.

 

The sister of Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook founder) posted about "Hipster Lip Dub" videos that have invaded web 2.0 land...

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-29/randi-zuckerberg-on-the-hipster-lip-dub-craze/

 

I agree with the commentors when they say that these people are not hipsters.

 

 

Urk. This will never be a requirement for Prefix, please?

I think hipster has a very clear definition: liberal arts college graduate who appreciates things stereotypically believe to be bad because it is ironic. This is justified with postmodernism. Whatever medium you apply this to (music, film, art, politics), it's the love of irony over sincere quality that defines hipsters. Though I think that this lifestyle is on the way out.

It's very limiting. I legitmately like NASCAR, and everybody assumes that I'm actually mocking it. And it's hard to enjoy a comic book movie when the studios are trying to make "statement" films for a "hipper" audience. Dark Knight, for example, is what happens when mainstream entertainment tries to become "edgy" and "cool."

college graduate? wtf. there are more hipsters between 14-21 nowadays.

i saw 2500 hipsters and 500 wannabe hipsters at girl talk on saturday. i don't need to know anything about that. i could tell this by looking at them.

and someone please tell me how hipster rap fits in this too.

Ethan, your definition seems way too specific these days, and too generous. I'm not sure it's anything but an aesthetic anymore. To be a hipster takes nothing but the desire to be one (not even ingenuity or creativity or the ability to be ironic or unironically ironic or whatever the case may be). It wasn't always this way, but such is the natural cycle.

I'm with Brandon, hipsterdom today generally means that a person wears American Apparel, plastic glasses, and self-identifies as a hipster. In other words, clothing choices and self-aesthetic. The term doesn't really mean what it used to.

Those between the ages of 14-21 are not fully formed humans. It's the hipsters with money and jobs that do the most damage.

Hippies vs Hipsters.

Both useless groups of people defined by their style, and their misguided philosophies. 

Different scenes, different eras... same worthless pile of steaming human waste. 

 

 
We must never fall into the common retard-trap of allowing ourselves to believe, for even a second, that there’s any deeper “meaning,” or “movement” behind our chosen music-and-t-shirt collective.
Just as we’d all laugh our asses off at a Hippie’s suggestion that they were somehow saving the planet by turning their heads into birds’ nests and listening to The Phish, equally laughable is the idea that cynicism, our scene’s version of a Hippie’s “peace n’ love,” is somehow making our society better. (see Fig. 0.9) 

 

 

Again gotta link to my man BN for that graphic and post. via street carnage 

 

Listen, I'm fully admitting that people can go for the "look" of a hipster just by being one. But that's the way it was with hippies, beats and punks as they were on the way out. I'm saying that that's what the stereotype of the hipster is, and the fact that it is becoming an established concept rather than a radical new thing means that it's alreay on its way out the door. I've made a whole point on this site of arguing that sincere idealism is coming back into fashion, and that's become hipsterism at least in its old form has become so institutionalized that it's ceased to become interesting.

Btw, should point out one thing: arguing that a term has lost all meaning and become worthless to debate? That's a signature hipster tactic.

This is insane to me. Why does anyone care? What "damage" do hipsters do? Have you ever woken up in a bathtub filled with ice, wearing AA lamé leggings and a turqoise acid wash deep v-neck, and not known how you got there? Are Fred Falke remixes what's freezing the credit market? Is Williamsburg full of sleeper agents who are plotting a violent takeover of the Eastern seabord? Probably not.

 

"Hipster" is just another essentially meaningless term to pigeonhole people who from the outside, seem to have a similar collection of cultural/aesthetic preferences. Whoever reads this, there is probably someone who thinks "you" are a hipster, even though you would certainly shout them down until blood streamed from their eye sockets at the suggestion. All of this hate is about as productive as those kids in Mexico who were going around and beating up emo kids. It's masturbatory and pointless (probably including what I'm writing right now). Doesn't that video up there prove that no one who hates hipsters actually knows what the hell a hipster is?

 

Also, @Al, I think you're misconstruing blognigger's point big time. He wasn't saying that hippies or hipsters are "steaming piles of human waste," he was just saying that hipsters can no longer pretend that the general cynicism that they often share between themselves makes them "cool" or that it actually accomplishes anything.

He wasn't saying that hippies or hipsters are "steaming piles of human waste,

No he wasnt...but I am.

 

"Btw, should point out one thing: arguing that a term has lost all meaning and become worthless to debate? That's a signature hipster tactic."

 

 Ethan, aren't you a liberal arts college grad that listens to bands that are on heavy rotation at Urban Outfitters like Vampire Weekend?

 

I think your definition of hipster was about right over five years ago, but now it's the equivalent to using the word "emo" and expecting people to think of a band like Sunny Day Real Estate. The term means something else now.